Price Comparisons

Clearly, six cores and 16MB of L3 cache does not come cheap:

Pricing and TDP of the Xeon 74xx series

Let us see how this compares with the current AMD pricing, which AMD has not updated since March 2008.

Server CPU Pricing
Intel CPU Price AMD CPU Price
Xeon X7460 2.66GHz (6 core, 16MB) $2729  
Xeon E7450 2.4GHz (6 Core, 12MB) $2301 Opteron 8360 SE 2.5GHz $2149
Xeon E7440 2.4GHz (12MB) $1980 Opteron 8358 SE 2.4GHz $1865
Xeon E7430 2.13GHz (12MB) $1391 Opteron 8356 2.3GHz $1514
Xeon E7420 2.13GHz (8MB) $1177 Opteron 8354 2.2GHz $1165
  Opteron 8350 2.0GHz $873
Xeon L7455 2.13GHz (6 core, 12MB) $2729  
Xeon L7445 2.13GHz (12MB) $1980 Opteron 8347 HE 1.9GHz $873

If we use the numbers from our quad socket comparison, it is clear that the two top models of the newest Xeons are out of reach of AMD. You might remember that a 2.5GHz Opteron 8360 performs more or less at the level of a 2.93GHz Xeon X7350. The E7450 that replaces the X7350 has six improved cores and a massive 12MB L3, which should ensure the newest Xeon easily outperforms the X7350 despite having a clock speed disadvantage of about 20%. Intel remains stubborn when it comes to the lower power CPUs, which come with a huge price premium. This leaves a small opening for AMD with its upcoming 45nm Shanghai CPUs.

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  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    I'm sure Johan will rerun tests when Shanghai actually launches. He's been working on creating the virtualization testing scenarios for a while, and with something finally in place testing of future products will not be a problem. The launch of Dunnington just happened to coincide with the time for doing this virtualization article.
  • helldrell666 - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    It seems that inquirer's Charlie demirjian was right after all,Anandtch is a pro INTEL anti AMD sight.It's obvious that their reviews are biased and unfair against AMD.
    Anandtech exists to troll for INTEL...That's it.
  • Loknar - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    Years ago the Inquirer accused Anandtech of being pro-AMD. Check out the old Athlon XP articles. I won't let you accuse Anandtech of being biased! This is one of the only smart website in the world, please look in your own backyard before accusing the only ones doing true reporting.
    Anyway.. what is this about AMD vs Intel? We are enthusiastically watching the competitors fighting each other in the most healthy way. Did you buy AMD stocks or - why do you seem to have personal interest in this matter?
    Chill out and enjoy the nice products this competition brings is what I'm saying.
  • whatthehey - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    Anyone who ever - EVER - refers to someone form the Inquirer as being "right" is so obviously stupid that you don't even deserve to read articles like this. All you'll do is hurt your tiny little brain trying to fit truth into your world-view where AMD rules, Intel sucks, and Charlie isn't an idiot.

    FWIW, I read this article and didn't feel it was at all Intel biased. We all know that AMD can't compete worth a damn on the desktop, and AnandTech has been one of the few sites that has provided any serious server articles where they have frequently pointed out performance advantages AMD still maintains. Even this article is quite positive for AMD, showing that many IT admins with Opteron servers should be fine for a while yet. If you're buying a new server, Dunnington appears to (finally) take the performance crown for 4S/8S and virtualization servers. I also understand how complex coming up with anything resembling a repeatable virtualization benchmark, so it's nice to see some independent testing that doesn't end up praising blade farms. Not that there's anything wrong with blades... other than the proprietary nature and extremely high costs.
  • socrilles07 - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    I don't get it - instead of using the already released high end AMD processor they used the much lower price point processor for a quite unfair comparison. In the end they make assumptions about what the performance to watt will be in the higher end processor. I thought anandtech was suppose to be THE review site, can you not afford the faster processor? or has AMD stopped providing you samples because of you bias? Lets do Apples to Apples comparisons
  • JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    Add 8% to our 8356 benchmarks and you'll know where the AMD Opteron 8360SE ends up in the best case. It is not that hard.

    From price/performance/Watt point of view, the 8356 is the best offer AMD has right now, and I am sure AMD would sent us another CPU if they felt otherwise.

    We can not buy CPUs at $2000 a piece for each review that we write. If you work with virtualization and other server software, you have an idea how many manhours go in this kind of article. Add $8000 of AMD CPUs, $8000 of Intel CPUs... I hope you understand I don't feel like spending the rest of my time on ebay desperately trying to recoup some of my massive losses of buying server CPUs.
  • socrilles07 - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    you can't buy processors that cost $2000 a piece but some how you manage to get samples of processors costing twice that before they are obviously you are no longer getting samples from AMD for some reason if not you could've done a comparison with at least the high end processor if not the next gen AMD processor which wouldve been more like the anandtech of the past.
  • JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - link

    "so obviously you are no longer getting samples from AMD for some reason"

    We'll see. :-)
  • helldrell666 - Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - link

    What a good INTEL supporting article.But, It is expected from anandetch.Their ATOM review that made ATOM look like the best offering in it's category and their phenom reviews that made the phenom look like a two dual cores on a chip with one disabled.....These days one must take every little thing with a lot of salt.
    Anantech reviews of AMD's products are stuffed with false and biased perspectives and numbers.
  • npp - Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - link

    Look, we're trying to get some discussion here. If you don't like anandtech and you're convinced that it is biased towards Intel, why do you keep reading it? And if you've expected that a six-core Intel CPU would be slower than an AMD quad-core, you were obvoiusly mistaken, so take a note and give some constructive criticism, if you can.

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