AMD Creates Quad Core Zen SoC with 24 Vega CUs for Chinese Consoles
by Ian Cutress on August 3, 2018 4:35 AM ESTAMD has cornered the x86 console market with its handy semi-custom mix of processors and graphics. While we slowly await the next generation of consoles from Microsoft and Sony, today AMD and Zhongshan Subor announced that a custom chip has been made for a new gaming PC and an upcoming console for the Chinese market.
The announcement states that a custom chip has been created for Subor that is based on four Zen cores running at 3.0 GHz and 24 compute units of Vega running at 1.3 GHz. The chip is supported by 8GB of GDDR5 memory, which the press release states is also embedded onto the chip, however it is likely to actually be on the package instead. Update: AMD has corrected the press release to say that the GDDR5 controller is on the chip, and the 8GB of GDDR5 is installed into the motherboard. Compare this to the specifications of AMD’s current SoC designs, such as the Ryzen 5 2400G, which has four Zen cores and 11 Vega CUs. Or Intel’s multi-chip design featuring four Intel cores and an AMD-based 24 compute unit GPU paired with 4GB of HBM2 memory. There is also AMD’s Vega Mobile chip, which is expected to be in the 24-32 compute unit range, however this is also paired with 4GB of HBM2.
AMD Semi-Custom Comparison | ||||||
Zhongshan Subor |
Ryzen 5 2400G APU |
Vega Mobile | Intel with Radeon RX Vega |
Xbox One X |
Sony Playstation 4 Pro |
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Year | 2018 | 2017 | TBD | 2018 | 2017 | 2016 |
Cores/Threads | 4 / 8 | 4 / 8 | - | 4 / 8 | 8 / 8 | 8 / 8 |
CPU uArch | Zen | Zen | - | Kaby Lake | Jaguar+ | Jaguar |
Peak Frequency | 3.0 GHz | 3.8 GHz | - | 4.1 GHz | 2.3 GHz | 2.13 GHz |
GPU | Vega | Vega | Vega | Polaris | Polaris | Polaris |
GPU CUs | 24 | 11 | 24-32 | 24 | 40 | 36 |
GPU SPs | 1536 | 704 | 1536-2048 | 1536 | 2560 | 2304 |
GPU Freq | 1300 MHz | 1250 MHz | ? | 1190 MHz | 1172 MHz | 911 MHz |
GPU DRAM | 8 GB GDDR5 | System DRAM |
4GB HBM2 | 4GB HBM2 |
12GB GDDR5 | 8GB GDDR5 |
Located | Subor PC Subor Console |
Desktops | - | Hades Canyon NUC | Xbox One X |
PS4 Pro |
AMD's Scott Herkelman with Vega Mobile (left) and Vega 64 (right)
Assuming that this custom chip is a single chip design, with CPU and GPU, this means that AMD is handily gaining custom contracts and designing custom chip designs for its customers, even for consoles that won’t have the mass western appeal such as the Xbox or Playstation.
The demo given at the ChinaJoy event (the Chinese equivalent of E3 it seems) in Shanghai was initially of a PC that Subor plans to launch in late-August with the new chip. An upcoming console, based on the same hardware, is expected to be launched by the end of 2018. AMD cites that this is a key win for its semi-custom division, especially in a key market such as China. In this market, AMD also has semi-custom collaborations with Tsinghua, and a Joint Venture with THATIC.
The new SoC, name unknown, will support FreeSync, the Adrenalin software, and Rapid Packed Math, confirming that this is a true Vega design (unlike the chip used by Intel in its combination product).
Update:
Over at zol.com.cn, there are images of the unit:
Update 2:
AMD has updated its press release to state that it is the GDDR5 controller that is on the chip, and not the 8 GB of GDDR5. The memory is installed on the board elsewhere, as with a normal GPU for example.
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Tkan215 - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
this zen might be different zen from USA.Cooe - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
It's not, a Zen core is a Zen core. And if you're referring to like how there's the recent Chinese manufacturing of licensed EPYC's, those are identical to the official AMD western designs as well.Matthmaroo - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
I believe both the ps5 and next Xbox will have zen or zen 2Lots of talk about it on the inter webs
FullmetalTitan - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
From 'sources' it is looking like Zen 2 + Vega 7nm or Navi 7nm depending on launch window and product maturity. It all depends on the console cycle timing, since the execs would have to order the initial stock ~3 quarters in advance of the actual console release, and they can only order what is available/proven for a semi-custom part.kmi187 - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
A lot of western consoles already run AMD hardware.mode_13h - Friday, August 3, 2018 - link
All, except Nintendo.t.s - Saturday, August 4, 2018 - link
AFAIK, Nintendo is from Japan.drSeehas - Saturday, August 4, 2018 - link
Yes, Sony is from Japan too.msroadkill612 - Saturday, August 4, 2018 - link
Western consolations.Dragonstongue - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link
ummm, Ryzen has been out and launched in western countries since early 2017 LOL (March 2 for 1700-700x-1800x...Apr 11 for 1400-1500x-1600-1600x...June 29 for 1200 and 1300x)Ryzen 2200/2400g were launched Feb 12 2018
Zen + (Ryzen 2xxx desktop) 2600-2600x-2700-2700x were launched April 19, 2018.
the G in AMD naming stands for Graphics (what they also call APU..accelerated processing unit that is cpu and gpu in the same chip.