Intel Core i9-14900K, Core i7-14700K and Core i5-14600K Review: Raptor Lake Refreshed
by Gavin Bonshor on October 17, 2023 9:00 AM ESTIntel AI Assist: A Better Guess At Auto Overclocking
Below, we'll give Intel's latest AI Assist feature via the Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU) software to see what it believes is the best overclock for our system and how it compares to default settings. After applying Intel's AI Assist to our Core i9-14900K, it concluded that the following settings are suitable for our test setup:
Intel's AI Assist believes our system and Core i9-14900K is capable of 6.1 GHz on the two of the P-cores and 6.0 GHz on the remaining 6 P-cores, which, based on some preliminary testing with XTU, is very ambitious, to say the least. When running a CineBench R23 MT, the system was as stable as a kite in a hurricane; not very stable at all. We did manage to get a couple of CineBench R23 MT runs in, but with thermal throttling happening instantaneously, we saw some regression in performance with a score of 39445; temperatures went straight into the red, and the system dialed back the core frequencies and CPU V-Core.
The feature is a good idea in principle, but once enabled, even though it's an Intel-marketed feature, it voids the CPU's warranty. The other element is that the additional heat and power make the applied settings under intense workloads unstable. While this is still an early feature, we would have expected more stability with the applied settings than we saw in our testing.
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bananaforscale - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
Why?nandnandnand - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
AMD has not been generous with multi-threading at the entry level, e.g. 7600/7800X.I don't agree that they have to start selling 32-cores soon. They have a few ways to address multi-threading with Zen 5 or Zen 6. The easiest one for Zen 5 would be to make a 24-core with an 8+16 configuration. But that probably won't stop them from releasing an entry level 6-core.
If they boost the core counts of the normal/fast chiplets in the future, then core counts will rise across the board. For example, a 12-core chiplet would probably get disabled to 8-10 cores for the entry level, instead of 6. A 16-core chiplet could get disabled to 10-12. That is not happening with Zen 5 as far as we know.
SanX - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
Why Intel and AMD not make enthusiastic 100-200 core 6-7 GHz processors with TDP 1 kW for those who don't care how much they consume because already have 10-20 kW solar panel systems on their roof ? Let others be jealous. Green energy proponents will be dancing in joy.bananaforscale - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
Shut up, troll.cmdrdredd - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
No, there IS a place for ALL the performance at ANY cost. Some people are like that really. Not everyone lives and dies based on power consumption like the comments have you believing. I don't care, I can pay the bill and it's really peanuts difference between a 14900k and a 7950x in terms of the difference it would make on the power bill. If I am looking for max performance for my usage that isn't even a consideration, only performance matters. By that measure the 14900k is better sometimes and sometimes not. So it would come down to very specific use cases. What I'm saying is, everyone here moans about power usage but ignores the fact that not everyone pinches pennies on the power bill or needs to worry about it and just wants the max performance. That's why 4090s exist and sell well.ItsAdam - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
I own a 4090, still wouldn't buy a 14900k, was gonna buy then they decided to refresh.I dislike the heat element. This much possible power draw is broken,how can you cool that and maintain peak speeds. It's pointless.
The only ones who could use these are people on propper custom loops or ln2 overclocking.
They are literally pointless CPUs and the new gen of intel CPUs was just a total waste of time, development and retail. Just think how much waste they've made for this new gen that's the same, just the packaging and everything what a waste.
Pointless. Like your post.
SanX - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
I also dont buy this gen Intel processors, so what?Cheap solar energy and efficient heat pumps will slowly change mentality. Now power supply in PC 1kW, soon they will be 2 kW and rarely who will care. People don't care about power efficiency. 99.9% don't even know the price per kilowatt-hour. Kids playing games dont even want to hear about it. If you care then find the solutions how to use that possible 0.25-1 megawatt of solar power falling on your property. Power efficiency is just the salespeople buzzwordThe Von Matrices - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
They already do make super-high TDP processors. They're called EYPC and Xeon.SanX - Thursday, October 19, 2023 - link
Server and supercomputer high core count chips heavily rely on power efficiency, hence they have clocks 2-3 GHz. For example the 64 core EPIC processor essentially equivalent to the future 24-32 core consumer processor at 6 GHZ at 3-5x cost. If someone worry too much about power consumption just buy couple used solar panels for 100 bucks and you will cut the cost by half or 100% with smart backupPeachNCream - Wednesday, October 18, 2023 - link
Those peak power numbers are disgustingly bad. I wouldn't want to pay the utility bill for that so I'm glad I paired a keyboard to my phone and make do with less than 8w peak total system power consumption. Oddly enough, I don't feel as though I'm missing anything without some obnoxious box filled with a CPU like one of these and some obesity-level graphics card.