"We could all benefit if WD imposed better quality control over the implementation of Toshiba Flash in 3rd party use cases like thumb drives" ------------------------------------------------------------
What I meant was, this is not a problem with the flash itself but with controller implementations that give the flash a bad name when it wasn't the fault of the flash
I am seeing a lot of problems with thumb drives that use Toshiba Flash but do not perform consistently from one drive to the next
WD might actually try requiring 3rd parties to meat the performance envelope that they know for a fact the flash can achieve
"No matter who ends up buying the Toshiba memory business, the landscape of the flash memory market will be very different. Toshiba is currently the second-largest manufacturer of NAND flash memory, behind Samsung, with the sale coming at a time when all memory prices are spiking due to high demand."
What are the repercussions of the sale expected to be for consumers? Is this going to raise or lower NAND pricing?
Probably not as much as the tens of billions Chinese are pouring into NAND. This $18 billion is M&A money but the Chinese are spending twice as much in new fabs with the first one supposedly come online next year. Many are comparing this to Koreans getting into memory in the 90s.
China are already spending at least $54 billion in NAND fabs. We seen this already before in their li-ion batteries etc, once China gets their way if wouldn't matter if your product is 10% better than theirs if they can undercut your prices by like 50%.
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Samus - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
It's intriguing that Toshiba wasn't part of INCJ all along, considering Mitsubishi and even Hynix, a KOREAN company, were indirectly vested in INCJ.Bullwinkle J Moose - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
It would be great if WD gets a big win for Toshiba's Memory BizWe could all benefit if WD imposed better quality control over the implementation of Toshiba Flash in 3rd party use cases like thumb drives
Toshiba sure wouldn't do it
We need better "consistency" in the performance of this Flash across ALL similar products
Western Digital has a great history in this regard
Bullwinkle J Moose - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
"We could all benefit if WD imposed better quality control over the implementation of Toshiba Flash in 3rd party use cases like thumb drives"------------------------------------------------------------
What I meant was, this is not a problem with the flash itself but with controller implementations that give the flash a bad name when it wasn't the fault of the flash
I am seeing a lot of problems with thumb drives that use Toshiba Flash but do not perform consistently from one drive to the next
WD might actually try requiring 3rd parties to meat the performance envelope that they know for a fact the flash can achieve
I sure hope so anyway
Hurr Durr - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
>yaps about consistency>can`t keep posts in a thread
Oh the ironing.
warreo - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
the ironing indeed...Stochastic - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
Muphry's law strikes again.vladx - Thursday, June 22, 2017 - link
Muphry's law nice, didn't know about this one until now.FreckledTrout - Thursday, June 22, 2017 - link
The most incompetent troll award goes to, the owner of the Hurr Durr account, for his role in the ironing.Hurr Durr - Friday, June 23, 2017 - link
Joke flew over your head, and still you managed to get butthurt. The ironing just got ten feet higher!Stochastic - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
"No matter who ends up buying the Toshiba memory business, the landscape of the flash memory market will be very different. Toshiba is currently the second-largest manufacturer of NAND flash memory, behind Samsung, with the sale coming at a time when all memory prices are spiking due to high demand."What are the repercussions of the sale expected to be for consumers? Is this going to raise or lower NAND pricing?
wr3zzz - Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - link
Probably not as much as the tens of billions Chinese are pouring into NAND. This $18 billion is M&A money but the Chinese are spending twice as much in new fabs with the first one supposedly come online next year. Many are comparing this to Koreans getting into memory in the 90s.StrangerGuy - Thursday, June 22, 2017 - link
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1331223China are already spending at least $54 billion in NAND fabs. We seen this already before in their li-ion batteries etc, once China gets their way if wouldn't matter if your product is 10% better than theirs if they can undercut your prices by like 50%.
Dr.Neale - Thursday, June 22, 2017 - link
So, similarly, once AMD gets their way, it doesn't matter if Intel's product is 10% better, since AMD can undercut Intel's prices by 50%.Would you agree or disagree?