From the article: "It is noteworthy that HP’s fifth-generation EliteBook 700 laptops are the first AMD-based mobile computers to feature Thunderbolt 3 interface"
That link doesn't support what you're claiming. It states that only client devices are royalty free, but the mobo side is still fully under Intels thumb.
Finally, we see Ryzen with Thunderbolt. Now things are going to get interesting. Especially because Thunderbolt is awesome for eGPU applications, and for professionals.
Simple. My old eyes have to scale up the 1920x1080 on my 840G3 to be able to actually see anything. And there are still applications that just don't work, even with the latest Win10 scaling. Luckily I always have a second display that is capable of 1080 or better and still be readable - a standard desktop display at work and my USB portable one when I am on the road. 1080 on a 14" screen at 100% is just not readable for me. 125% is good, 150% is too much. While 1366x768 is next to useless, it would be readable at 100%. My previous old laptop did 1080 on a 15.6" display - that was fine.
I just want a low powered 2-Core/4 thread Ryzen chip with 192-256~ Stream processors in a 2-in-1 netbook. AMD's Stony Ridge simply has inadequate CPU performance... And GPU performance is castrated by single channel DDR4 @ 1866-2133mhz.
But it would be interesting to compare tests with say Dell XPS 15 2in1 with 8705g, the dell has has more cores - but the 2700u is slightly faster GPU. Now I know differences of opinions of CPU, but I believe the Dell XPS has faster CPU ( same number of cores ) and the 2700U had 6 cores instead 4 - in some situations ( not single threaded ), it would be 8705G
Is there a keyboard without the unnecessarily huge right shift key and with a full up-arrow key? Those half-height up/down arrow keys are a productivity hinderence for many, but especially for people with stiff thick fingers or gloves, such as field workers in the cold. I'm disappointed the half-height fashion persists. Keyboard function over fashion, please.
ANd compared to my 840G3, it appears those Skype phone buttons replace the insert and prt scr keys, otherwise the layout is identical. Great, there's a delete, but no insert? The small arrows for up and down are a pain.
The spec table lists one TB3 USB type-C port separately from a "USB 3.0 Type-C (power, data, DP 1.2)" but the pictures only show one type-C port.
Having two would let me keep a magnetic charging adapter in one all the time, leaving the other port for my monitor, other power, etc. So it's disappointing to be led on!
And the datasheet states clearly that it isn't support. Somebody on reddit(https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8i8oog/first... who claims to have access to a demo unit also says that there is not TB3 on the Elitebook 700. The manual/datasheets make it explicit whether or not the USB Type-C port supports Thunderbolt. As you can see from the manuals, it clearly doesn't.
The specs listed are wrong on many counts. The HP 'Quickspecs' for these models have been available for a few months already:
- The resolution on all models is FullHD, except on the 645 there is HD (1366x768) option. 2560x1440 is not an option on any of the models. - The cheapest CPU is Ryzen 3 Pro 2300U. (Pro 2200U doesn't even exist) - Maximum RAM capacity is 32 GB. - The 7x5 models only have an 2280 M.2 slot and HP offers 128 - 512 GB SATA/NVME drives with encryption as well. - The 645 model has also the 2,5" slot with 500-1000GB HDDs along with M2 options. - Wifi is either Realtek or Intel 2x2, the 645 also has 1x1 options. All Wifi options have BT4.2 included within.
The HP quickspecs are easily googled with "Elitebook 745 G5 quickspecs" and so on.
I'm somewhat curious why the HD model still exists, last time I spoke with HP reps they told me that the current generation models would sport FHD as the minimum option.
I didn't understand only 1 thing. If HP said in the press release that the min price for an SKU is 999USD then why they put up an inflated price in their website for the bare minimum. it comes down to around 1128 usd when you remove Win10, Fingerprint reader, WIFI/Bluetooth, webcam etc and configure only Ryzen 3 with 4Gb of RAM and 128GB of Drive capacity. I mean WTF, a rather big one. Didn't happened the same with Envy 13.3 which came, as predicted before, with a 759 USD price tag. More over in HP Uk the same Ryzen 3 config with same ram and hard drive comes at 891 GBP with all the necessities. Someone should really get back to HP to clarify this.
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ToTTenTranz - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
Is this the first time we ever see Thunderbolt 3 with AMD?KWottrich - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
From the article: "It is noteworthy that HP’s fifth-generation EliteBook 700 laptops are the first AMD-based mobile computers to feature Thunderbolt 3 interface"HStewart - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
This is because Intel made the Thunderbolt 3 standard Royalty Free. So HP is likely using another manufacture's controller.https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbolt/comments/5lyd...
DanNeely - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
That link doesn't support what you're claiming. It states that only client devices are royalty free, but the mobo side is still fully under Intels thumb.WinterCharm - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
Finally, we see Ryzen with Thunderbolt. Now things are going to get interesting. Especially because Thunderbolt is awesome for eGPU applications, and for professionals.KWottrich - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
In the related reading, the 2nd Gen HP TB dock link points to the Ryzen PRO articleSamus - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
The Ryzen 5 2500 model looks like the sweet spot. But I need to point out the obvious, WHY DOES HP STILL HAVE 1366x768 AS AN OPTION!?sonichedgehog36 - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
Greed and demand. People still pay for it, and they make money. Unfortunately, bean counters—and not visionaries—have the final say in such things.Gunbuster - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
The irony is no bean counters excel sheet would fit on a 720p laptop screen...rrinker - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
Simple. My old eyes have to scale up the 1920x1080 on my 840G3 to be able to actually see anything. And there are still applications that just don't work, even with the latest Win10 scaling. Luckily I always have a second display that is capable of 1080 or better and still be readable - a standard desktop display at work and my USB portable one when I am on the road. 1080 on a 14" screen at 100% is just not readable for me. 125% is good, 150% is too much. While 1366x768 is next to useless, it would be readable at 100%. My previous old laptop did 1080 on a 15.6" display - that was fine.damianrobertjones - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
I was about to say the same thing! Then again they can then CHARGE anyone that wants to upgrade to something that's standard on other machines.StevoLincolnite - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
I just want a low powered 2-Core/4 thread Ryzen chip with 192-256~ Stream processors in a 2-in-1 netbook.AMD's Stony Ridge simply has inadequate CPU performance... And GPU performance is castrated by single channel DDR4 @ 1866-2133mhz.
One day maybe.
Mikewind Dale - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
ECC memory?HStewart - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
No according to specs I found - it does not appear to have ECC memoryhttp://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen%207%20...
But it would be interesting to compare tests with say Dell XPS 15 2in1 with 8705g, the dell has has more cores - but the 2700u is slightly faster GPU. Now I know differences of opinions of CPU, but I believe the Dell XPS has faster CPU ( same number of cores ) and the 2700U had 6 cores instead 4 - in some situations ( not single threaded ), it would be 8705G
Gc - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
Is there a keyboard without the unnecessarily huge right shift key and with a full up-arrow key? Those half-height up/down arrow keys are a productivity hinderence for many,but especially for people with stiff thick fingers or gloves, such as field workers in the cold.
I'm disappointed the half-height fashion persists. Keyboard function over fashion, please.
rrinker - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
ANd compared to my 840G3, it appears those Skype phone buttons replace the insert and prt scr keys, otherwise the layout is identical. Great, there's a delete, but no insert? The small arrows for up and down are a pain.sonichedgehog36 - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link
Maybe we will see an AMD-based Surface with Thunderbolt in the coming years? Radical? Yes, but I like high stakes. Never tell me the odds.edgineer - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
The spec table lists one TB3 USB type-C port separately from a "USB 3.0 Type-C (power, data, DP 1.2)" but the pictures only show one type-C port.Having two would let me keep a magnetic charging adapter in one all the time, leaving the other port for my monitor, other power, etc. So it's disappointing to be led on!
Tamz_msc - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
I'm sorry but the information regarding TB3 support is wrong. From the datasheet(http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docn...Page 4, Messaging Footnotes number 2:
"Thunderbolt not supported on 700 series only supports USB-C."
mdriftmeyer - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/elite-family/elitebook-70...Read up on this page. Information on the Thunderbolt 2 Dock is forthcoming.
Tamz_msc - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
And the datasheet states clearly that it isn't support. Somebody on reddit(https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8i8oog/first... who claims to have access to a demo unit also says that there is not TB3 on the Elitebook 700. The manual/datasheets make it explicit whether or not the USB Type-C port supports Thunderbolt. As you can see from the manuals, it clearly doesn't.Burstaholic - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
Too bad, this was an exciting headline :\peevee - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
Screens with large margins again. How this sht still survives?!?!sandtitz - Thursday, May 10, 2018 - link
The specs listed are wrong on many counts. The HP 'Quickspecs' for these models have been available for a few months already:- The resolution on all models is FullHD, except on the 645 there is HD (1366x768) option. 2560x1440 is not an option on any of the models.
- The cheapest CPU is Ryzen 3 Pro 2300U. (Pro 2200U doesn't even exist)
- Maximum RAM capacity is 32 GB.
- The 7x5 models only have an 2280 M.2 slot and HP offers 128 - 512 GB SATA/NVME drives with encryption as well.
- The 645 model has also the 2,5" slot with 500-1000GB HDDs along with M2 options.
- Wifi is either Realtek or Intel 2x2, the 645 also has 1x1 options. All Wifi options have BT4.2 included within.
The HP quickspecs are easily googled with "Elitebook 745 G5 quickspecs" and so on.
I'm somewhat curious why the HD model still exists, last time I spoke with HP reps they told me that the current generation models would sport FHD as the minimum option.
Sumbee - Thursday, June 7, 2018 - link
I didn't understand only 1 thing. If HP said in the press release that the min price for an SKU is 999USD then why they put up an inflated price in their website for the bare minimum. it comes down to around 1128 usd when you remove Win10, Fingerprint reader, WIFI/Bluetooth, webcam etc and configure only Ryzen 3 with 4Gb of RAM and 128GB of Drive capacity. I mean WTF, a rather big one. Didn't happened the same with Envy 13.3 which came, as predicted before, with a 759 USD price tag. More over in HP Uk the same Ryzen 3 config with same ram and hard drive comes at 891 GBP with all the necessities. Someone should really get back to HP to clarify this.