One of these and a 1050ti would make a great esports box but why when a Ryzen 2200G costs $89. Intel would need to price these fairly cheaply but I doubt they will. Intel's just sandbagging in earnest trying to hold back the dual floods of Ryzen on one side and Arm on the other.
Faulty iGPUs must be a substantial problem for Intel if, now in a manufacturing shortfall situation, they're harvesting faulty iGPU parts for lower end segments.
Less time and resources spent occupying manufacturing due to cpu's faulty igpu. Now those are viable products rather than garbage. Maybe it's only 5% of all cpu's. That's still 5% less demand for fab resources.
I got to ask this does the F in the name mean these CPU's are Fracked up as in something not right inside them such as messed up iGPU's so they are releasing them with the iGPU's disabled to cut some of the losses.
Chipzillah 14nm+ (and 10nm) tock'd when they should have tick'd. The suffixes stand for F(ailed) EUs.
I suspect that structurally, the cell libraries at 10nm were borked, and in the 14nm "Process-Architecture-Optimization' tree, the train went off the rails -- sometime around Kaby Lake (when the higher fin height and larger pitch resulted in less density). This is roughly the time 'GT2' and HD6xx EUs came to fruition.
Interestingly enough, 'short' cell libraries are optimized for high density and low power -- which, yowsa, is 75% of graphics and 'uncore' of the die size.
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plopke - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
You never know but do people even buy these expecting no iGPU?SquarePeg - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
One of these and a 1050ti would make a great esports box but why when a Ryzen 2200G costs $89.Intel would need to price these fairly cheaply but I doubt they will. Intel's just sandbagging in earnest trying to hold back the dual floods of Ryzen on one side and Arm on the other.
PeachNCream - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Faulty iGPUs must be a substantial problem for Intel if, now in a manufacturing shortfall situation, they're harvesting faulty iGPU parts for lower end segments.Ej24 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Less time and resources spent occupying manufacturing due to cpu's faulty igpu. Now those are viable products rather than garbage. Maybe it's only 5% of all cpu's. That's still 5% less demand for fab resources.Mikenight - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
Simple really. They will release their own discrete GPUs. One division half heartedly doing what other had requested. Smells corporate infighting.Pure speculation :)
rocky12345 - Friday, February 22, 2019 - link
I got to ask this does the F in the name mean these CPU's are Fracked up as in something not right inside them such as messed up iGPU's so they are releasing them with the iGPU's disabled to cut some of the losses.Smell This - Saturday, February 23, 2019 - link
Chipzillah 14nm+ (and 10nm) tock'd when they should have tick'd. The suffixes stand for F(ailed) EUs.I suspect that structurally, the cell libraries at 10nm were borked, and in the 14nm "Process-Architecture-Optimization' tree, the train went off the rails -- sometime around Kaby Lake (when the higher fin height and larger pitch resulted in less density). This is roughly the time 'GT2' and HD6xx EUs came to fruition.
Interestingly enough, 'short' cell libraries are optimized for high density and low power -- which, yowsa, is 75% of graphics and 'uncore' of the die size.