They Are made for dirty cheap memory parts! Not to compete with phison Pci4 chips. These Are for cutting the prices and cutting the power draw. Really waiting what Samsung will do!
exactly, just like Ryzen kind of Navi has set the stage for getting "more for less" while also reduce power consumption magnitudes over pre-ryzen systems.
m.2 even at pci-e 2 x 2 will be fast as hell, as long as price is excellent it does not mean performance always has to be beyond "the others" sometimes to make the race easier for all is best ^.^
Client solid state drive (SSD) is a marketing term used by original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and value-added resellers (VARs) to differentiate between solid state drives built for consumers and solid state drives built for the enterprise. For example, client MLC flash drives can only provide 3,000 to 10,000 write cycles, while enterprise MLC cells can handle 20,000 to 30,000 write cycles.
The performance of x4 one barely edges out the dramless x2 ones. And even falls behind phison e16, which was a small tweak from 2018's design. And I call this underwhelming
Is that actually a 2230 M.2 card in the photo? I bought a Thinkpad as a work computer with three 2230 M.2 slots like five years ago expecting to be able to put SSDs in them but just ended up sticking with the 2.5" SATA drive the system came with until I left that job.
Having had almost 2.5 years of up and down problems with a Marvel chip in my Linksys WiFi router, I hate to see them anywhere near anything I might own in the future. I will not buy anything Linksys or with a Marvel chip in it ever again.
It is so sad that x4 controllers are not simply twice as fast as x2. Product management fail. A couple more R5 cores would achieve that easily, and they are incredibly tiny on 12nm, package size would not increase.
These are client drives. There's absolutely no reason to increase anything as no one who uses these SSDs will be utilizing the interface to its full potential.
Do you guys just post this stuff to get attention or something? I don't understand. Did you even read the article or the title where it clearly states "client"?
The CPU cores usually aren't the bottleneck for SSD controllers. They're designed so that ordinary IO avoids the CPU cores as much as possible and flows through mostly fixed-function blocks.
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erinadreno - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Had to say these controllers are pretty underwhelming given their use of pcie gen4 interfacehaukionkannel - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
They Are made for dirty cheap memory parts! Not to compete with phison Pci4 chips. These Are for cutting the prices and cutting the power draw. Really waiting what Samsung will do!Dragonstongue - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
exactly, just like Ryzen kind of Navi has set the stage for getting "more for less" while also reduce power consumption magnitudes over pre-ryzen systems.m.2 even at pci-e 2 x 2 will be fast as hell, as long as price is excellent it does not mean performance always has to be beyond "the others" sometimes to make the race easier for all is best ^.^
DyneCorp - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Ryzen? That's debatable.Navi? Uh, no. Navi is extremely power hungry compared to its competition.
austinsguitar - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
like he said these are not to be some holy grail pcie4 controller, but they sure are better than current pcie3 controllers arn't they?DyneCorp - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Do you even understand what a "client" drive is? I mean, come on people.haukionkannel - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Client solid state drive (SSD) is a marketing term used by original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and value-added resellers (VARs) to differentiate between solid state drives built for consumers and solid state drives built for the enterprise. For example, client MLC flash drives can only provide 3,000 to 10,000 write cycles, while enterprise MLC cells can handle 20,000 to 30,000 write cycles.DyneCorp - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Yeah? No duh. These drives are not underwhelming. They're client drives.erinadreno - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
The performance of x4 one barely edges out the dramless x2 ones. And even falls behind phison e16, which was a small tweak from 2018's design. And I call this underwhelmingDyneCorp - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link
Of course they fall behind E16 drives, because they're going to much cheaper.What part of client drive do you not understand? You won't be able to purchase these, they're OEM drives for cheap pre-built computers.
Did you even read the damn article?
evilspoons - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Is that actually a 2230 M.2 card in the photo? I bought a Thinkpad as a work computer with three 2230 M.2 slots like five years ago expecting to be able to put SSDs in them but just ended up sticking with the 2.5" SATA drive the system came with until I left that job.eye4bear - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Having had almost 2.5 years of up and down problems with a Marvel chip in my Linksys WiFi router, I hate to see them anywhere near anything I might own in the future. I will not buy anything Linksys or with a Marvel chip in it ever again.DyneCorp - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Ah yes, the age old "my experience sucked, so wahh".People like this really are quite special.
Could you please explain how you could better produce microprocessor chips?
Billy Tallis - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Marvell is selling off that division.peevee - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
It is so sad that x4 controllers are not simply twice as fast as x2. Product management fail. A couple more R5 cores would achieve that easily, and they are incredibly tiny on 12nm, package size would not increase.DyneCorp - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Why is it sad? What are you even on about?These are client drives. There's absolutely no reason to increase anything as no one who uses these SSDs will be utilizing the interface to its full potential.
Do you guys just post this stuff to get attention or something? I don't understand. Did you even read the article or the title where it clearly states "client"?
Do you even know what a client is?
Billy Tallis - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
The CPU cores usually aren't the bottleneck for SSD controllers. They're designed so that ordinary IO avoids the CPU cores as much as possible and flows through mostly fixed-function blocks.