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  • jeremyshaw - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Is this using the same 13.4" 16:10 panels from the XPS 13 7390 2in1, or is it using a new, 13.3" 16:10 panel? Also, given one of Comet Lake - U's main achievements is LPDDR4 support, is Dell seriously still sticking to LPDDR3?
  • znd125 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Might be a typo. Notebookcheck is reporting the same 1080p resolution as before.
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-7390-wil...
  • brakdoo - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Yeah and the first pic here looks more like 16:9 than 16:10. At least I hope it's 16:9 because watching movies or apps using side menus (like Visual Studio or Adobe stuff) is so much better.
  • ajp_anton - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    What's wrong with some extra vertical space? It's pretty much the same width anyway, both in terms of pixels and physical size, only difference is that 16:9 has a huge bezel at the bottom that could be used for more screen.
  • brakdoo - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    The bezels could be cut away if you don't need them..
    -Or just buy a nice 14 inch laptop if you want vertical space.

    Horizontal space is much more important nowadays because people do less stuff that would benefit from additional vertical pixels (like typing letters or destop publishing).
  • ajp_anton - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    So again, what's wrong with 16:10 when the horizontal space is the same, but you get more vertical space?
  • oRAirwolf - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link

    There is nothing wrong with it. People like to reee about black bars when watching 16:9 content and have no idea what they are losing in the process. Microsoft, Huawei, and Apple (even Dell) have all figured it out. 16:10 or 3:2 is a much more efficient use of space and is much more useful for browsing pages, content creation, and productivity.
  • Ej24 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Computers don't care about inches. The UI scaling is based on pixels. So if a window is 800 pixels high on a 13in 1080p screen it will take up proportionally the exact same amount of space on a 14in 1080p screen. I never understood how people don't get this. There's zero difference between a 40in 1080p display and a 13in 1080p display. If they're both set to 100% scaling (Windows doesn't go below 100% scaling) they'll have exactly the same amount of screen real estate to work with.
  • dontlistentome - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link

    14" just means bigger pixels. 16:10 means more space. You've obviously never used a 16:10 screen. They are *awesome*. Some people do more than watch 16:9 videos on their devices...
  • Ej24 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Definitely still has a massive chin. Completely wasted space. Really disappointing. The footprint of this laptop would probably even allow a 3:2 display. But instead we get a useless chin.
  • Ryan Smith - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    It's a typo. I can confirm it's 16:9. Thanks!
  • Cygni - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    It's a typo, they have LPDDR4X-3733 on the dell page. It wouldn't surprise me if Intel is mandating (or even bundling) that RAM config.
  • nehway0912 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Sorry could you share the link? I can't seem to find any source from Dell indicating the new 7390 will come with lpddr4x.
  • brakdoo - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    I can't find it on the Dell page. Are you mistaking it for the new 2-in-1?
  • Cygni - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Yeah you may be right, this website is a disaster and I can't even tell which version of the XPS 13 some of the tech documents are for. It looks like there are 4 separate product lines with the same name all for sale right now?

    The 3733 is for the Ice Lake CPUs.
  • ajp_anton - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Really? Comet Lake doesn't even support frequencies that high.
  • Ryan Smith - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Dell's official spec sheet: "4GB-16GB LPDDR3 Dual Channel SDRAM at 2133MHz (On Board)"
  • kalgregor - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link

    Oooh. I would be very interested in a 16:10 Dell laptop.
    I am a little envious that Mac\Chrome books have been the only laptops with decent aspect ratios.

    I really hope Dell push this out to more laptops, or at least to their business line. e.g. Latitude and Precision. I have been purchasing 16:10 monitors for all our laptop users.
  • Teckk - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Show some love for the XPS 15 please! And yeah LPDDR3?
  • PeachNCream - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    16:10 is nice, but is there really enough value to in going to 4K on a 13 inch panel at the cost of added GPU workload and reduced battery life? It just seems like a candidate for GUI scaling which means there isn't much of a net gain in going through the trouble of ramping up resolution on such a tiny display beyond adding a bullet point on sales materials.
  • Teckk - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Agreed. We need 2K resolution options in laptops.
  • dullard - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    1) The table shows that 2K is an available resolution in this specific laptop. So your complaints are invalid.

    2) What is wrong with people wanting to see their photos at full resolution? There is nothing I hate more with working with photos than every single photo loading at 40% zoom because the monitor can't display it in native resolution.
  • Teckk - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Which one is 2K in the table - 1920 x 1200 ?
  • Teckk - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Hit enter too soon - Sure have 4K by all means, but if you can begin a line with "What is wrong with people wanting to ..." then others have their own requirements too like a different resolution which is not listed in the table. You have your opinion, just as everyone else have their own.
  • dullard - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Your comments are not clear. You commented that we need 2K options. This laptop gives a 2K option: 1920x1200. 2K is a vague term, referring to monitors with ABOUT 2000 horizontal pixels. Is the point that you are trying to make is that 1920x1200 is not good enough 2K? If so, being clear, such as like "we need DCI 2K, native resolution options in laptops" would have been much better.
  • Teckk - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Fair enough 👍
    Yeah so I was referring to QHD (2560 x 1440), preferably on a 15" screen
  • dullard - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    My point #2 was referencing PeachNCream's comment of "but is there really enough value to in going to 4K on a 13 inch panel".
  • znd125 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    I don't see the point of 4k in a 13-inch either. Something like 2736 x 1824 with 200% scaling is the ideal for me.
  • KWottrich - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    I'm very disappointed to see Dell still using LPDDR3 instead of LPDDR4X. It's faster, has lower power usage, and isn't hard capped at 16 GB. What a shame.
  • nicolaim - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    1. DDR3 is lame.
    2. Why use a Killer WiFi card when the CPUs have integrated Intel WiFi?
    3. What's the port next to the microSD card reader?
  • evilspoons - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    That port looks like a USB Type-C with a DisplayPort symbol next to it.
  • brakdoo - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    The CPUs don't have the analog parts of wifi integrated. You still need a cnvicard that is only one dollar cheaper than the m.2 PCIe card (digital+analog). The cnvi isn't even smaller...
  • jeremyshaw - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    The XPS 13, if it's anything like the last two generations of XPS13, is not using a "M.2 card," rather a specific M.2 miniaturized form factor that is smaller than any commercial M.2 card. It is also soldered to the board. AFAIK, no non-CNVi solution has a footprint that small.
  • brakdoo - Thursday, August 22, 2019 - link

    I tell you how it is but you go AFAIK...

    Just visit ark:

    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/produc...
    https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/produc...

    Both are also available as M.2 1216 (real standard M.2 soldered down, so technically not a card but still official M.2 ;)).

    Notebookcheck has shown the same BS with pics of AC 9560 and AC 9260 (both also available as M.2 1216).

    So once again: Integrated WiFi is just a marketing stunt from Intel.

    Anandtech is not making that clear enough. They are just showing Intel's promotional presentations. The user doesn't benefit at all. Who cares whether the digital part is inside the southbridge or inside M.2 (of whatever size)???
  • Jorgp2 - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Pretty sure the WiFi 6 killer cards are just firmware modified Intel cards.
  • hanselltc - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Maybe you wanna put "Comet Lake" in the spec sheet. 10th Gen naming is *very* confusing, that would make it a bit easier.
  • ajp_anton - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Yeah, Anandtech have already complained about the vague and confusing marketing from Intel, so it's not helping when they themselves aren't being clear on what is being used.
  • NICOXIS - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Comet Lake instead of Ice Lake?? Seems Dell is really confident in Intel's new 10nm chips lol
  • GreenReaper - Wednesday, August 21, 2019 - link

    Or... they just put the next available CPUs into their pre-planned designs. Which explains why it doesn't actually use most of the new features.
  • jonneymendoza - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link

    Does this come with the Iris Pro iGPU? this offers similar performance to a mx250. also are we going to see 32gb ram now?
  • WPX00 - Friday, August 23, 2019 - link

    According to this Dell roadmap, which leaked back in the spring and has been remarkably accurate, the XPS 13 will get Ice Lake next year, presumably the announcement at CES.
  • Orange_Swan - Tuesday, August 27, 2019 - link

    I actually wonder how XPS 13 with a top-end ice lake CPU would compete with an ultrabook with an MX 150/250 @ 10w.

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